[elm-discuss] any editor supports elm simple whole-buffer reformat?

[Raoul Duke]

hi,

One use case I have in all programming systems is to auto reformat a whole
file buffer (let alone a whole directory tree of code). I tried doing that
in emacs elm-mode but it seems that it doesn't quite know enough to do what
I am hoping for. Is there any emacs mode for elm that knows what to do
automagically?

I also just tried it in atom, with language-elm, and it doesn't seem to
know either. Is there any good working editor system that can do it? Is
there something about elm's BNF-or-whatever that prevents editors from
being able to do it? (Does it support my long held believe that whitespace
sensitive syntax being a bad idea when all concerns are weighed? :-)

(I did try to get set up with lighttable but that was sort of a miserable
experience for me to date, so i haven't gotten to the point of trying auto
reformat there.)

thank you!

[N H]

In Elm, we have a single formatting tool which is used by all plugins,
known as elm-format: https://github.com/avh4/elm-format

You may not have installed it yet. Check out the README in that repo and
it'll tell you what to do.

Post by Raoul Duke
hi,
One use case I have in all programming systems is to auto reformat a whole
file buffer (let alone a whole directory tree of code). I tried doing that
in emacs elm-mode but it seems that it doesn't quite know enough to do what
I am hoping for. Is there any emacs mode for elm that knows what to do
automagically?
I also just tried it in atom, with language-elm, and it doesn't seem to
know either. Is there any good working editor system that can do it? Is
there something about elm's BNF-or-whatever that prevents editors from
being able to do it? (Does it support my long held believe that whitespace
sensitive syntax being a bad idea when all concerns are weighed? :-)
(I did try to get set up with lighttable but that was sort of a miserable
experience for me to date, so i haven't gotten to the point of trying auto
reformat there.)
thank you!
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[Raoul Duke]

Thanks! Will do. (Dunno if it would be cool if the editor plugins had it
built in already?)

[Raoul Duke]

So I just tried elm-format in emacs elm-mode and it... wasn't such a
good experience. Is there currently a best editor for Elm that is the
most bullet proof / featureful? That doesn't require me to do all
sorts of setup that might/not work?

[N H]

There is a table in the README for elm-format explaining all the different
editors that have support for it and the setup steps required. I suggest
checking that out to get an idea

Post by Raoul Duke
So I just tried elm-format in emacs elm-mode and it... wasn't such a
good experience. Is there currently a best editor for Elm that is the
most bullet proof / featureful? That doesn't require me to do all
sorts of setup that might/not work?
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[Raoul Duke]

Thanks! I did do that. Did sorta get it working in emacs mode! But
overall it didn't / doesn't seem to work so well, as I said -- wonky
UX. Now hoping for something that really just works out of the box
w/out any extra config at all? I.e. a real IDE where the errors are
shown inline with red squiggly underlining, that kind of thing. I am
not a VIM person so the elm-format editor support table shows me the
only other choices are LightTable and Atom I guess. I'll try again to
get Atom going... I can now do the Ctrl+Alt+B thing there. But it
doesn't seem to really be easily out-of-the-box integrated with the
compiler? There's apparently linter-elm-make but that looks like yet
more steps of things that might or might not work and the on-the-fly
is experimental? I guess I am coming to the conclusion that there
isn't really a real IDE experience for elm.

(I am now learning the hard way that I don't like elm's recommended
formatting much oh well. We should all have languages that use AST/ASG
instead of subjective syntax-ASCII, so that everybody can have their
own format and yet never have to merge based on inconsistent /
differently opinionated ASCII. :-)

['Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss]

Post by Raoul Duke
Thanks! I did do that. Did sorta get it working in emacs mode! But
overall it didn't / doesn't seem to work so well, as I said -- wonky
UX. Now hoping for something that really just works out of the box
w/out any extra config at all?

I am also a fan of Emacs, but have not had much joy with Emacs and Elm.
Probably we are in a minority liking both Emacs and Elm.

Try Atom + elmjitsu + elm-format.

[Zachary Kessin]

I have found elm and emacs work just fine it just takes some fine tuning

Zach
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Post by Raoul Duke
Thanks! I did do that. Did sorta get it working in emacs mode! But
overall it didn't / doesn't seem to work so well, as I said -- wonky
UX. Now hoping for something that really just works out of the box
w/out any extra config at all?

I am also a fan of Emacs, but have not had much joy with Emacs and Elm.
Probably we are in a minority liking both Emacs and Elm.
Try Atom + elmjitsu + elm-format.
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Post by Zachary Kessin
I have found elm and emacs work just fine it just takes some fine tuning

Care to share some of your emacs configuration?

[Wendel Wang]

For me the LightTable elm-light plugin works well.
You install it with the plugin manager and then set up the keymapping
depending on you rpreferences.
An example setup is given in the elm-light docu that you can just cut and
paste into you user-settings file.

I have set up elm-format on save.

Some other functions are also useful and in-editor linting works as well.

You mentioned you faced difficulties using LightTable. What was the problem?

[Chad Woolley]

FWIW, I was able to get elm-format to auto-format on save in Jetbrains IDEs
(RubyMine specifically, but should work in any of them). Took a little
extra scripting glue and macros, but it worked.

-- Chad

Post by Raoul Duke
hi,
One use case I have in all programming systems is to auto reformat a whole
file buffer (let alone a whole directory tree of code). I tried doing that
in emacs elm-mode but it seems that it doesn't quite know enough to do what
I am hoping for. Is there any emacs mode for elm that knows what to do
automagically?
I also just tried it in atom, with language-elm, and it doesn't seem to
know either. Is there any good working editor system that can do it? Is
there something about elm's BNF-or-whatever that prevents editors from
being able to do it? (Does it support my long held believe that whitespace
sensitive syntax being a bad idea when all concerns are weighed? :-)
(I did try to get set up with lighttable but that was sort of a miserable
experience for me to date, so i haven't gotten to the point of trying auto
reformat there.)
thank you!
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